Long Lasting I'm old enough to realize the wisdom of Dzogchen and Mahamudra They're paths of "outlasting", like a gull bobbing on the waves, riding the ups and downs till they dissipate in due time. Such as devious medthod. Long term commitment for eternity inherency will outlast it all, every appearance seen flimsy, diminishing the binding and the suffering. What a plan! May 25, 2001 (3 of 3)